The New Testament 😜
But seriously, that's what fully woke me up. After that, I'd say CoC and ISoCF.
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1. crises of conscience.
ray franz.
The New Testament 😜
But seriously, that's what fully woke me up. After that, I'd say CoC and ISoCF.
during gerrit loesch's talk just released, he goes on a long list of the false end times predictions throughout the millennia.
i didn't expect it, but then he goes into the precursors to the bible students who, when their dates failed, changed christ's presence to have happened 'invisibly'.
then it goes right into the jws, and he reads the quote from millions now living will never die about how we can 'confidently expect' the resurrection in 1925, and then the life everlasting book that predicted 1975. of course, he doesn't say how it's still going on, namely with the overlapping generation and its' accompanying convoluted chart, but still, this is more than they've ever said on the subject, especially recently.. it almost sounds like a forced statement, to address any backlash from people reading 'apostate lies' online, because he also says how the gb 'humbly' admitted mistakes, referencing the non-apology after 1975 that disturbed raymond franz.
During Gerrit Loesch's talk just released, he goes on a long list of the false end times predictions throughout the millennia. I didn't expect it, but then he goes into the precursors to the Bible Students who, when their dates failed, changed Christ's presence to have happened 'invisibly'.
Then it goes right into the JWs, and he reads the quote from Millions Now Living Will Never Die about how we can 'confidently expect' the resurrection in 1925, and then the Life Everlasting book that predicted 1975. Of course, he doesn't say how it's still going on, namely with the overlapping generation and its' accompanying convoluted chart, but still, this is more than they've ever said on the subject, especially recently.
It almost sounds like a forced statement, to address any backlash from people reading 'apostate lies' online, because he also says how the GB 'humbly' admitted mistakes, referencing the non-apology after 1975 that disturbed Raymond Franz. Still, having all this stuff brought up will surely get some to thinking, as they may have never even heard of 1925 and 1975 before.
this is from a recent article about malawi, and the caption calls the man "brother welosi mbendera".. .
This is from a recent article about Malawi, and the caption calls the man "Brother Welosi Mbendera".
so i am trying to understand if i am the only pomo that experiences the situation where the pimi spouse comes back from a meeting a different personanlity.
it may not be obivious to the untrained eye, but i notice it and i know my sons notice it.
this last round after all the loyalty bs and armagedon bs it's like she has stayed stuck in it.
This is 100% true, and it can be really frustrating, because it seems to reset any progress you might have made.
in the late 80's when i was in my late teens i used to with my then wife to be attend a monday night pre-watchtower study at a local elders house.. this guy was revered as very knowledgable and he was scholarly and interesting to listen to; so at the time it was a genuinely enjoyable monday evening spent with oftentimes discussion would veer far of the subject at hand and lasting to well after 11pm some evenings.. this particular night, the subject up for discussion was "the faithful and discreet slave" and how we should be obeying them without question.
right in the middle of the study this elder said as a question not in the wt article; "how do we really know the current fds as lead by the governing body are the real deal.
i mean what actual proof do we have?".
Side note: I think it's hilarious that one of Diogenesister's comments got a downvote because of a passing mention of Cedars 😅
2020 is days away.
has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?
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JWdotORG, JW Broadcasting, tablets instead of books, carts instead of door to door, real estate and fund theft, the FDS being exclusively the GB to centralize power, the move to Warwick, the acceptance of Christian rock and other pop styles previously viewed as inappropriate, the overlapping generation being elaborated and cemented, dancing to pop songs in the Hall, putting on Broadway style plays, having red carpet events and other over the top attractions at international conventions . . .
i just got home from attending a lovely christmas eve service with my daughter and her family.
what a nice, no pressure, service, singing the old songs we all know.
silent night, etc.
For whoever misunderstood my comment: I was AGREEING with the post. That's what happens when you speed read 😅
merry christmas everyone!.
our entire family got together this morning to celebrate christmas.
i started by reading luke 2, the shepherds story.
Merry Christmas Vanderhoven7, and thank you. It's comforting to read posts like this as a secret Christian / JW PIMO.